We used PayPal when placing our order, but unfortunately PayPal has a problem. Their problem is they have a 45 day rule, in other words if you have not lodged a claim within 45 days of making your purchase, PayPal will not accept your claim, and like us, you will be on your own.

I have spoken to PayPal on several occasions but they will not take up my complaint as a claim. So, as I cannot get a refund from Sweety Weddings, putting up this site to let everybody know that Sweety Weddings is a Scam Site, is the only option open to me. If I only save one couple from being very, very disappointed along with not loosing their hard earned cash, then it will be worth my effort.

I will now detail the contacts we had with Sweety Wedding, and you will see that they know about PayPal's 45 day rule because they string out the days.

I will now copy e-mails and proof of payment to PayPal. You will see that they even misspell words so you think they are Chinese. I have removed my name, delivery address and e-mail address for obvious reasons, however, if any one wishes to contact me they can do so by e-mailing

Before placing our order I asked about delivery times

Hi,
My wife wishes to purchase one of your dresses for a wedding she is going to, but before we place an order we would like to know the delivery time as she only has four weeks before she fly's to South Africa.
Thanking you, James

This is the reply

Sales wrote:
Dear James,
Thanks for your email. Regularly, it takes 16-18 days since all the details of the order is confirmed to finished an order. We also offer Quick Delivery Service, that will take 12-14 days to finish an order. So four weeks is enough for you to receive the dress if you place the order now, and leave all the detailed measurements.
Kind Regards,
LEI XU

Order Placed on the 9th September, the following is a copy of the order confirmation

Order Confirmation from Sweety Wedding
my name
Thanks for shopping with us today!
The following are the details of your order.
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Order Number: 135
Date Ordered: Wednesday 09 September, 2009
Detailed Invoice:
http://www.sweetywedding.com/index.php?main_page=account_history_info&order_id=135

Please note I had to click on standard size to make site work. The dress
needs to be made to the measurements we filled in.
thank you,
James
Products
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1 x Short Sleeve V-neck A-line Sweetheart Mother Dresses (KMD0017) = $196.00
Crystals & Beads: Deluxe Plan
Delivery: Regular Delivery – 16-18 Days
Vintage
Trim Color none
Standard Size: 12 (B:38 W:31 H:41.25 HH:60)
Height With Shoes: 66 inches
Bust: 39.5 inches
Waist: 37.5 inches
Hip: 40 inches
Hollow to Hem: 56 inches
Upper Bust: 38.5 inches
Under Bust: 35.5 inches
Nipple to Nipple: 9 inches
Shoulder to Bust: 11 inches
Shoulder to Waist: 20.5 inches
Outer Leg: 39.5 inches
Armseye: 19 inches
Shoulder to Shoulder: 17 inches
Sleeve Length: 13 inches
Arm Length: 21.5 inches,br> Bicep: 13.5 inches
Upper Arm Length: 13.5 inches
Armpit to Elbow: 12.5 inches
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Sub-Total: $196.00
Best Way (We highly recommand you to use UPS FeDex or DHL for delivery so that can benifit you with the quicker and cheaper transport. ): $30.00 Total: $226.00
Delivery Address
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I have removed my address

Payment Method
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PayPal

This email address was given to us by you or by one of our customers. If you feel that you have received this email in error, please send an email to sales@sweetywedding.com
Copyright (c) 2009 Sweety Wedding - sweetywedding.com.
This email is sent in accordance with the US CAN-SPAM Law in effect 01/01/2004. Removal requests can be sent to this address and will be honored and respected.

The delays start

From: Sales
To: "e-mail removed"
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 9:09 AM
Subject: NO. 135
Dear "Full name removed"
This is a message from sweetyweding.
We have sent you emails before but didn't get the reply.
Could you please tell us What do you mean about vintage, because the designer cannot get the accurate idea of the color from the word Vintage. Could tell more details about what it looks like or give us a choice from our color chart attached.
Look forward to your reply soon.
Thank you very much.
Lei Xu

My reply

From: "e-mail removed"
To: Sales
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: NO. 135
Hi,
I do find this strange because I received an e-mail telling me "Thank you for your order" and have not heard anything until this morning.
We now think that it might be too late because Lucille leaves for South Africa on the 14th of October that is why I paid the extra to get it here in good time.
You show Vintage on a dress at this url http://www.sweetywedding.com/strapless-floor-length-aline-mother-dresses-p-1342.html
Please advise.
Kind regards,
James

Their reply

Dear James,
So the dress just need to be the same color of the dress at the url http://www.sweetywedding.com/strapless-floor-length-aline-mother-dresses-p-1342.html.
We will do that and make the dress in that color.
Kind Regards
Lei Xu

My reply

From: "my e-mail removed
To: Sales
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: NO. 135
Hi Lei Xu,
That is correct, now, do you have any idea how long it will take? Because as I said before Lucille leaves for South Africa on the 14th of October.
Thank you,
James

Their Reply

Sales wrote:
Hi there
I am afraid you cant have your dress before 14th October.
It will take about 30 days for you to have your dress since all your order information confirmed.
We just confirmed your color yesterday!
Will that be ok?
Look forward to your reply!

It is at time that I should have asked for a refund, because the statement above will put the time over 45 Days

But as I still believe it is OK I send a reply

Now 22 days

From: "my e-mail removed
To: Sales
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: NO. 135
Hi,
I do not understand a couple of points;
Before I placed the order I asked if the dress would be delivered before my wife left to attend a wedding in South Africa, the answer was YES.
I paid the extra so that the dress would defiantly be finished in 12 to 14 days, so why would it take a further 16 days to get to us.
The confirmation of the colour should never have been needed because it is one of your colour's on your site and not a new one that my wife asked for. On your site you ask for the number or name of the colour, I did not find a number on the chart but as the colour is displayed on your site I did not see a problem in giving the name. As it turns out that was very wrong.
My wife is now very upset as this dress was ordered for her to wear to her nieces wedding.
If we go ahead can you please tell me when the dress would be delivered to me?
I would appreciate your comments on the above points.
Kind regards,
James

Their reply

Hi James
Sorry for the misunderstanding! There is slight difference between color chart and real fabric, in order to make the dress as your will we need your confirmation. Also I will report your conditon to my manager, he will take proper measurement tio make sure you can have your dress before the wedding!
Have a nice day!
YANG

My reply to that

Now 37 days

From: "e-mail removed"
To: Sales
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: NO. 135
Hi,
Another week has gone by since my last e-mail on the 7th requesting the status of the order. No reply or delivery as of today.
This is the PayPal transaction details;
Web Accept Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #140443127P7600838) on the 9th September from e-mail removed for the amount of $226.00 USD.
As you have not sent the dress or notified me when it will be delivered I now request that you reimburse me via PayPal. I will give you 48 hours to reply before I contact PayPal direct. Thank you,
Name removed

They now wait until 17th November to reply

Sales wrote:
Hi James,
I am sorry to say that we are informed your dress was lost during the transportation by EMS express, and we have made complaints from them. Our manager promised to rework a dress for you at once. Would you please confirm us your wedding day so that we will try our best to catch the soonest delivery and let you receive it before your big day.
Sincerely apologize for it again.
Christina

Stupidly I believed them so sent this reply

From: "e-mail removed"
To: Sales
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: NO. 135
Hi Christina,
Well it is great to finally get confirmations of what has happened. My wife's nieces wedding has already taken place so my wife had to purchase another dress in South Africa for that occasion.
Because of that, this order is really not needed and the dress would only hang in her wardrobe never to be used because peoples sizes do change and if in a years time she wanted a dress to go to another wedding it would more than likely need altering. Is it possible to receive a credit?
Kind regards,
James

On the 19th November according to somebody calling herself Christina, of cause it is

Now 41 days But they know they will make it past the 45 day rule

Sales wrote:
Hi James,
Please provide us the paypal payment adress, and we will arrnge to refund you.
Christina

Now we are feeling good about these Chinese people, or so we thought that is what they are.

Hi Christina,
The e-mail I use at PayPal is; "e-mail removed
Web Accept Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #140443127P7600838)
Original Transaction
Date Type Status Details Amount
9 Sep 2009 Payment To ? ?? Completed ... -$226.00 USD
Related Transactions
Date Type Status Details Amount
9 Sep 2009 Add Funds from a Bank Account Completed Details £140.03 GBP
9 Sep 2009 Currency Conversion Completed Details -£140.03 GBP
9 Sep 2009 Currency Conversion Completed Details $226.00 USD

I am very happy with your decision to arrange a refund and I do appreciate this decision, because of this my wife will use Sweety Weddings in the future and you will get a lot of good publicity from us.
Many thanks for your trouble.
Kind regards,
James

I wait another 10 days

Hi Christina,
Ten days ago you sent this e-mail but I have still not received a reimbursement.
Please advise why?
Kind regards,
James

Now it is 51 days so they do not need to ever make another reply

In between my next e-mail I phone PayPal and politely got told about their 45 day rule

Hi Christina,
Another week and still no refund, what is happening at Sweety Wedding?
I am getting to the point of thinking that Sweety Weddings is a Scam Site. No refund when promised, when I try to phone no human answer, only music for around 50 seconds and then it cuts off. I will need to check if this is changed at a high rate, if it is then it will confirm that Sweety Weddings is a Scam Site as you are also making money out of me when I try to phone.
If you do not reply with a refund in the next 24 hours I will take it my suspicions are founded and I will need to take some serious actions.
Kind regards,
James

My last e-mail

Still no word from Sweety Weddings, so that must mean that Sweety Wedding is a Scam Site and can only be treated as one.

Please remember in life, that for every action there is a reaction. You must now accept that from this time forward I will do whatever it takes to get this site closed down.

My full name

When you check Sweety Wedding site you think that it is a Chinese site, but I do not believe that anymore. The domain name seems to be registered in the USA. The following is a copy from

http://cqcounter.com/whois/

SWEETYWEDDING.COM - Domain Informationnew
Domain SWEETYWEDDING.COM [ Site Info Traceroute RBL/DNSBL lookup ]
Registrar FASTDOMAIN, INC.
Registrar URL http://www.fastdomain.com
Whois server whois.fastdomain.com
Created 05-Mar-2009
Updated 05-Mar-2009
Expires 05-Mar-2010
Time Left 85 days 9 hours 34 minutes
Status ok
DNS servers NS1.HOSTMONSTER.COM 74.220.195.131
NS2.HOSTMONSTER.COM 69.89.16.8
SWEETYWEDDING.COM - Geo Information
IP Address 66.147.240.162
Host sweetywedding.com
Location US US, United States
City Provo, UT 84606
Organization Bluehost
ISP Bluehost
AS Number AS11798
Latitude 40°21'81" North
Longitude 111°61'33" West
Distance 9743.77 km (6054.50 miles)

Well that is my story, and you probably think that I brought it on myself, because in all the years I have used PayPal I did not know it has a 45 day rule, I just thought they would stop scam sites that are only there to rip you off.

Anyway, I now have to look at what I can do to get this site closed down before they spoil somebody else's day. If you have any advise for me please e-mail me at